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Missing HB · Dec 02, 2010, 11:22 AM // 11:22

Question is in title ..I thought it did work considering we can add heroes in ghall, thus i just tried with some friend in order to make some fights , and we realized we couldnt unfortunately.....Basically we ended up using pre-made henchs , but it was not fun at all, since we cannot micro them...( he wanted to play rspike with heroes )

So in fact , what's the point of having heroes allowed in guild hall? i can't consider it's because easier to ping builds , since we cannot do it in Heroes Ascent or Codex.

It would be nice to do that , considering also that TA'ers can do Codex/scrimmages whereas HB'ers got nothing left . Really , it was sad when i realized that i cannot do any fight against a mate in this game ( not counting 1v1 of course , since you know how it is...)
It would be nice also to be able to use heroes on zaishen elite , since that place is now either trappers paradise , either have to use 3 crap henchmen

Illavos Lin · Dec 02, 2010, 12:03 PM // 12:03

I would assume it has something to do about Red Resign day and the Hero Battles taken off due to mass exploitation of the Z-Quest they might have just made hero's PvE only... Which confuses me that you can still waste faction to unlock them for PvP players......

MadKingAndy · Dec 02, 2010, 12:11 PM // 12:11

Heroes were taken out to try and increase the chances of people getting into PvP teams. It's handy to have heroes in guild halls so you can organise teams before you leave while other people in your team use the services.

bsoltan · Dec 02, 2010, 12:24 PM // 12:24

When Heroes were removed from PvP they were actually removed from the Guild Hall as well, you weren't able to add them to your party.

The problem is a lot of people doing PvE use the Guild Hall as a base as well, so it was useful to have the Heroes available to players in the Guild Hall so they can create builds and setup groups.

So Heroes were added back into the Guild Hall, but you still can't take them into PvP.

newbie_of_doom · Dec 02, 2010, 01:27 PM // 13:27

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Originally Posted by bsoltan

When Heroes were removed from PvP they were actually removed from the Guild Hall as well, you weren't able to add them to your party.

The problem is a lot of people doing PvE use the Guild Hall as a base as well, so it was useful to have the Heroes available to players in the Guild Hall so they can create builds and setup groups.

So Heroes were added back into the Guild Hall, but you still can't take them into PvP.

This.

While it makes perfect sense for them to be used in a scrimmage it's just not progammed that way. I suppose they could change it so that you would be able to. But frankly, it is a waste of time.

Elnino · Feb 12, 2011, 07:48 AM // 07:48

Sorry for the thread rez but since the 3-hero limit is about to be lifted, I think it would be great if Anet made some time to address this issue too. Heroes should be allowed into scrimmages. As the op stated, HBers have nothing remotely similar to HB anymore and scrimmages used to be the only other way for us to 4v4 with friends.

With the up and coming update, scrimmages with heroes could be so much more fun.

tealspikes · Feb 12, 2011, 09:47 AM // 09:47

/signed

If they're gonna be fiddling with the hero mechanics they might as well set things right for scrimmages and Zaishen arenas.

Coast · Feb 12, 2011, 10:55 AM // 10:55

because anet RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing sucks? me and brandon used to ritspike and try catch the spikes, was so much fun as long it lasted(clean spikes, like a spikebot lol)

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Feb 12, 2011, 11:11 AM // 11:11

/signed

i dont really do pvp, but sometimes battling for fun with full hero vs full hero could be fun
would be yet another new thing keeping people busy, especially after full hero update, so that we can make own teams and use it against other people's team(s)

jazilla · Feb 12, 2011, 07:47 PM // 19:47

it would be really great to be able to use heroes in GH scrimmages just to be able to have fun fights with alliance mates or whoever. i really dislike that we can't do this. Especially that we are getting the 7 hero update before 2015, but not before november of this year

mage767 · Feb 12, 2011, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by jazilla

it would be really great to be able to use heroes in GH scrimmages just to be able to have fun fights with alliance mates or whoever. i really dislike that we can't do this. Especially that we are getting the 7 hero update before 2015, but not before november of this year

2015 is an optimistic deadline, I'm aiming for 2020.

OP's idea does sound fun, could help challenge/test builds.

gmzeuner · Jul 04, 2011, 05:37 PM // 17:37

I also miss Hero Battles. I still don't understand why it was stopped. Heros should be allowed in scrimmages and even Gvg matches imao.

Taking away heros to try and get people to play together will not work, people badmouth each other daily in Fort Aspen just for using a certain skill.

Using henchies in GvG is murder, monks run so far away from team its ridiculous. If they want everyone to run the same team builds or skills then apply it to all chars. People cant get into GvG teams cause the are not experienced enough, so what if a nub creates a nub Hero team and loose in GvG, or maybe they scared a nub hero team get rated top 100?

So I'd love to get my heros and play Guildwars but currently theres nothing more for me to do. Was hoping for more when 7 heros were allowed.

Missing HB · Jul 05, 2011, 05:49 AM // 05:49

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Originally Posted by gmzeuner

People cant get into GvG teams cause the are not experienced enough, so what if a nub creates a nub Hero team and loose in GvG, or maybe they scared a nub hero team get rated top 100?

I can't disagree with that , but in my opinion , most players will tell you that the point of GvG isn't really about facerolling other team 8v8 then go for glord ( although it looks like it's the case about last 2 MAT's....)
Doing 2 humans + 6 heroes so at least you can share control would be good...
but well , the point of topic was more likely to be able to face someone using 1-2-3-4or more heroes... What's the point of being able to use 7 heroes in PvE if you can't even get fun fights against your mates??

However , 7 heroes or even henchs parties should have been done for HA to counter inactivity for ages....

Missing HB · Jul 16, 2011, 09:18 AM // 09:18

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Originally Posted by gmzeuner

I also miss Hero Battles. I still don't understand why it was stopped. Heros should be allowed in scrimmages and even Gvg matches imao.

Well, on a side note, behind nightfall box or even on that support forum, it's said that we can participate to 1v1 PvP battles with our heroes... Are they going to do something or ...?It's not like you normally say stuff about a game that you infact cant ....

Jeydra · Jul 16, 2011, 05:16 PM // 17:16

/signed

Obviously.

MithranArkanere · Jul 18, 2011, 12:16 AM // 00:16

It's a side effect of removing them from GvG. They have stated they they have nothing against heroes in scrimmages.

TheRakeman · Jul 18, 2011, 07:28 PM // 19:28

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Originally Posted by Missing HB

I can't disagree with that , but in my opinion , most players will tell you that the point of GvG isn't really about facerolling other team 8v8 then go for glord ( although it looks like it's the case about last 2 MAT's....)
Doing 2 humans + 6 heroes so at least you can share control would be good...
but well , the point of topic was more likely to be able to face someone using 1-2-3-4or more heroes... What's the point of being able to use 7 heroes in PvE if you can't even get fun fights against your mates??

However , 7 heroes or even henchs parties should have been done for HA to counter inactivity for ages....

May as well make it so that you can ONLY do HA with 7 heroes/hench. Then there would at least be enough groups to get games, and since HA is a joke anyway not like it makes a huge difference. Plus it is called HEROes Ascent